UPDATED: Curse you, Evelyn Wood! (Harry Potter Book 6 Discussion)
-July 24 Update-Since the discussion is still going on, I decided to move this up to the top.
Have at it!
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OK, I never took her speed-reading course but reading fast has always come naturally to me.
I finished "Harry Potter and the Halfblood Prince" about 1/2 hour ago...in about 5 - 6 hours of total reading time. NOW I must wait TWO MORE FRIGGIN' YEARS for the next one!
I won't print any spoilers in the main body of this post. However, I'd like to have a good discussion in comments about the book. I really liked it - though "The Goblet of Fire" is still my favorite. It also looks like some of my suspicions may turn out to be correct in the end, based on the events in the book!
What did everyone think? What or who will turn out to either aid or hinder Harry? What do you think is coming at the end? Who do you think we'll be the new...Oh wait, that would be a spoiler, wouldn't it? *grin*
Anyway, let me know what ya'll think!
posted by CelticDiva at 12:19 AM
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I can't answer because it's packed somewhere and I havent' found it yet :) On the plus side, we are on the road and headed for Denver :) On the minus side, that's with 2 cats.
2-words...cat kennel *grin*
Other than that, how is it going so far?
I read it ... and I have many comments! Where do we put those to not spoil others' reading experience??
Put 'em right here, Sanae - I warned folks that's what the comments are for!
I am very frustrated about it! I don't want Snapes to be the bad guy. So much speculation... could go either way I suppose.
Too much snogging... heh.
Gosh darn it SNAPE IS A CONNIVING CONNIVER! Hey Celtic found out you were having a discussion about this from Mamacita's blog.
I just KNEW that Snape wasn't true, even though like everyone else I trusted him because of Dumbledore. I personally thought that his general attitude was simply too negative to every person besides, I suppose, the Slytherin folk and Dumbledore because he was headmaster and had to keep his cover.
But I wonder who is the person that got Voldemort's soul?????? I can't think that Rowling would be interesting an all-new character for the last book...but I can't see how she could solve it by doing anything else!
I disagree on the Snape thing...I am now positive that he IS on the side of the Order of the Phoenix.
I believe that it hurt him deeply to kill Dumbledore (if you re-read the part where Harry calls Snape a coward and tells him to "kill him and get it over with," it mentions that Snape looked as if he was in as much pain as poor Fang yelping in the burning house.) I am sure that the true reason Dumbledore was pleading with him - the reason that he and Dumbledore had the argument in front of Hagrid - is because Dumbledore WANTED him to do it.
Dumbledore's students were the most important things to him in the world. I think that Snape told Dumbledore what Draco had been tasked to do and the oath he had to take to maintain his cover. I think that rather than lose Draco to Voldemort, as he would have had Draco killed him, I think that he told Snape to do it. There would be two benefits:
1) Draco would not have killed Dumbledore so there would still be a chance for his redemption,
2) There would be no more doubters among the Death Eaters - Snape would become Voldemort's right-hand man and in the perfect position to aid Harry in what he would eventually have to do.
However - big problem - I don't think that Harry was supposed to see it happen. Now all of the Order believe Snape has been lying to them so they now lose an excellent source of information.
I have lots of other theories but I'll stop there now. *grin*
Holy crap...that's a pretty convincing argument. LOL
I'm pretty sure too that Draco will eventually be redeemed, or at least, I hope that's how it works out.
So, do we think that we'll ever see Sirius again?
I think that Snape and Draco will both help Harry at the end but will die in the process. I think Harry will spar off with Voldemort with 2 of his Horcruxes still in tact and Draco and Snape will destroy them just before they fight or just when Harry has the opportunity to kill Voldemort.
But, looking at what it did to Dumbledore to destroy one, I don't think either of them could survive destroying them. Although looking at his performance as he left the grounds deflecting curses left and right from Harry, I guess I concede that Snape has a slim outside chance of living, at least a short while. However, Harry was not casting them silently which the really good wizards are supposed to do . . . I dunno, I think Snape is a gonner at the end of the book.
I also believe that to make up for his inexpierience, everyone that cares for Harry will assist him in some way throughout the fight with Voldemort. Perhaps all together, perhaps one by one.
I know who had took the real locket and the one piece of Voldemort's soul. Notice how the note that was left with the fake locket started with "Dark Lord". This means that it was someone who has followed Voldemort in the past, but not anymore. It could not have been anyone associated with the Order of the Phoenix because then Dumbledore would have known it was already somewhere else or destroyed. Also, this person wrote that "soon" he would be dead, knowing that Voldemort would catch up to him.
The RAB is none other than Regulus Black who was a former Death Eater but tried to escape from the clutches of Voldemort only to be found and killed. This was his revenge on Voldemort. Hope there is evidence that he was able to destroy it, if not it will probably be somewhere in 12 Grimmauld Place. (I bet Kreacher had it all along in his little cupboard of Black family trinkets he was keeping "safe").
Good arguments. As for Sirius, I heard an argument somewhere --- and can't remember where --- that he may be seen again because Rowling has only said, "he's gone and not coming back." Nothing mentioned about him being dead.
As for me... I see that when she kills someone they don't come back. Maybe he'll be in a portrait?
Yup - the way she has worded things regarding Sirius leads me to think that, while we may never see him alive, he may show up in another way.
Also, I hope we haven't seen the last of Fawkes! It would be cool if he came back to Harry.
Another clue pointing to RAB being Regulus Black. In book 5 ''a heavy locket that none of them could open'' was found by Harry and company at Sirius' house. Probably it's the locket Horcrux that Regulus stashed there before he died... the same one Dumbledore hoped to find in the cave.
Yes, I looked that up in Book 5 as a result of another discussion. So who has it - did Mundungus sell it or does Kreacher have it?
I don't know if anyone else saw the interview with Rawling where she stated the last sentence of the novel would be "harry, what happened to your scar?" (somewhat paraphrased) Considering the scar is a link to Voldomort, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not so much that Harry is a horcrux as his scar is.
So the way to kill Voldemort is a jar of scar removal cream?
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